Would we be told if aliens contacted Earth?

ET UFOs - Why The Government(s) Wouldn't Tell Us About Them - A Theoretical System's View.

The subject of (Extra Terrestrial -Ed) UFOs tends to carry the waft of an incredulous odor along with it wherever it doth go, but if we separate the issues (the existence of ET UFOs vs the existence of Government coverup policies) and look at it logically, I believe it's _no-contest_ that the (Western) Governments would indeed NOT inform the public of alien contact.

imo, there is a -compelling- argument for precisely why various Governments would indeed engage in a coverup and would NOT want the general public to know of the existence of UFOs

That reason is math. 

The math of religion

and

The math of social destabilization.

in short, social-instability based on general population Panic.

PANIC based on the challenging of the core structure of a society's major religion(s)

(and their followers - Ed)

The math of religion stipulates that Globally there are approx 2 billion Christians.

(and two billion Islamists, one billion Hindu, half a billion Chinese traditionalists, another half a billion Buddhists, another half a billion PrimalAfrican, all the way down to about half a million Scientologists, interestingly most of which can accomodate or include mention of alien life forms - Ed)

Yes OK Ed, but I presume the Q is would -Western- Governments coverup E.T encounters and if so Why?

And  I believe the answers are,

1. YES, Western (read: Christian - Ed) governments would coverup the existence of alien life.

and

2. because the news effects religion (read: appears to contradict Christianity) and therefore undermines Western (Christian -Ed) society.

(separation of church and state aside, though many are loathe to admit it in the western world, even our laws are based on the 10 commandments and our "morality" on The Holy Bible)

And the rub here as I see it is, IF the existence of aliens contradicts (either implicitly or explicitly) a world religion's/society fundamental core belief system, that society's Government WILL coverup the existence of alien life, to preserve social order.

that is, in cases where, you tell them that ETs exist and you're also telling them that their religion/what they were brough up believing, is WRONG. the Government will select NOT to release that belief-systems-challenging information.

That right there is why the Gov would not tell us of the existence of alien life, in the Judeo-Christian West.

IIRC the population-panic/social-anarchy tipping point kicks in when 8% of a population becomes unhinged/unglued/go-insane/destabalize/have-their-core-beliefs-shattered, after which the panic-effect spreads throughout that society exponentially until (if left unchecked - Ed) social order breaks down and anarchy takes over.

That (alleged - Ed) anti social-breakdown anti-instability Government policy may change as society changes, but up until the 1980s (before the age of electronic enlightenment - Ed)  in my view there was simply absolutely no way the Gov would admit to encounters with, or the existence of, E.T UFOs.

Because job #1 of a Government is to maintain social orde and stability.

I do believe that policy may change as society evolves though. 

In this part of the world, we've only had, wot, 30 years? outside of the iron-gripped control of organized religion, and as I see it, that's simply not enough time, given that we've spent the last 1500 years in a religion-controlled environ.

Give it another 500 years, and then Government policy may change to reflect social change. Time for a good few solid generations to grow up less indoctrinated, less religio-centric, to a point where there is less of a risk that 8-10% of the population will spread panic when their religious beliefs are challenged. 

And thereby threaten social order.

But even that's pure math optimism on my part.

I'm presupposing 500 solid continual years of a move AWAY from organized religion (having such a powerful influence over society -Ed) yet if I had to guess based strictly on an analysis of human history, I don't think I'd guess we'd get those 500 years.

I would think that you earthlings uh I mean we won't likely make it another 100 years in this separate direction before the pendulum swings back and religion begins to re-take hold of society ..again.

(if so, Athiests, you may begin SCREAMING *scribble* *scribble* *erase* carry the 42..now - Ed)

[Pathud]

And That's My View.

The Avante Guardian. ---- Einstein's Hair^2 //Approved.

The problem with telling everyone that theres other life out there is simply control. They use every differnt thing they can think of to keep control. Some of it good and some not so good. If everyone were to suddenly learn that all religion was wrong people would freak!

Even the pope has recently said that if there are aliens then they are also gods children?? Does he know something we don't about Aliens. He has two very powerful observeries so he just may.

IIRC it wasn't the Pope, it was The Pope's Jesuit Astronomer.  But I agree about the Fear (of contradiction) and Control 100% Jess!

I did find the statement highly interesting though not surprising considering the source.

The Jesuits (read: the academic wing of the Catholic Church) have always been pro Science.  I been attempting to mention this for years, in "Science vs Religion" debates, but it appears that unless one went to a Jesuit school, most of the public doesn't seem to be aware of that.

As the Pope's astronomer (José Gabriel Funes - Ed) 'ere said, Jesuits are hard-pressed to see a conflict between Science and Religion, The Pope however will still go ape-shiite on extremist Evolutionists that attempt to use evolution to attack religion and particularly when they try to use and distort evolution to argue that it proves there is no God.

Any reasoned balanced analysis of the science of evolution would show that there is no such anti-God conclusion possible within the construct of  "evolution".

As we know, Evolution is all about change -after- creation, evolution falls completely apart when it tries to explain original creation/ origin itself.

Anyway, I do find the timing of this public statement interesting, but that's possibly because I am one of those (nutjobs - Ed) *cough* uh that often entertains the notion that there is an illuminati-like world power structure, essentially a group of power brokers (though I believe they're comprised of members from various communities, not religions only, but biz leaders, world leaders and the like) and this group attempts to guide western society.

and when statements like this pop up the, "acclimating the public to a new shift in thinking or to an upcoming change in social structure" alarm bells go firing off in me head.

I'm half serious.

(and entirely insane, so not to worry - Ed)

*cough*

However, for this issues purposes there is already a prevalent motive to dip Christian toes into these Alien waters. Christianity on the whole may want to publicly embrace the possibilitiy of Alien life, as a function of protective forward thinking, for the reasons that I outlined in my post above.

1a. To "clarify" the record so that the panic-mongering extremists that belong to (all - Ed) organized religions, become acclimated to the idea that their religion ISN'T being undermined if (when - Ed) Aliens show up. 

(in other words so they won't become unglued - Ed)

1b. Because if  your religion was um .. interpreted .. to have said that there ought not be Aliens, then your religion would look right daft when the Aliens showed up on CNN, wouldn't it.

(Posterior protection at its finest! - Ed)

1b is likely the real reason for the Pope's Astronomer's announcement at this time, but the acclimating-the-public-to-Alien-life offshoot effect has raised this viewers eyebrow.

It makes one think (though mostly hope - Ed) that they're (the world social order society - Ed) are now attempting to prepare the public for an upcoming alien encounter, one that they're already aware is coming, because they've already made contact and have been hashing out how to best manage the public introductions.

Wishful thinking (particularly for that SF und Alien enthusiast - Ed) no doubt, but imo Alien life exists, and I would like to witness first (public - Ed) contact, and so I will entertain that notion for as long as is um (inhumanly - he is an alien you know - Ed) possible.

The Avante Guardian. ---- Einstein's Hair^2 //Approved.

I'm sure it will make a great double feature with the alien autopsy video.

As much as me and Fox Mulder want to believe, I have my doubts that such a video is authentic. I will reserve judgement until I actually see it, not that my eyes haven't been deceived before by nifty movie F/X.

C.X.

Haven't found The Video as yet.

Apparently it was shown to "professional journalists" and (surprisingly - Ed) none of them seem to have breached journalistic ethical standards ergo no bootlegged video copy from the press conference has surfaced (as yet - Ed).

To tide us over until it does surface there is an officially sanctioned still photo from the Video:

an interesting video from the same Denver Alien-Video Press Conference in which, Denver'ite and Press-Conference-organizer Jeff Peckman talks about the need for an "Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission"  (he's currently trying to get 4000 Denver signatures in order to get that proposal on a November ballot)

Interesting if only for his take on why the Government would cover up E.T UFOs.

and an er "re-creation" that is circulating (a polite word for fake - Ed)

and a diary-styled blog of the conference by David J. Chacon, Rocky Mountan News located 'ere:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/30/alien-commission-causes-commotion/

The Avante Guardian. ---- Einstein's Hair^2 //Approved.

Hmmmmmmmm(n) I seem to have fragged up this page here with the YouTube Video inserts. Previous contents of this post nuked to clean layout.

The Avante Guardian. ---- Einstein's Hair^2 //Approved.

If we ever do get real evidence, it's going to have to come from someone with a much more credible story and convincing attitude. When I first heard this story I thought that this 'sighting' happened recently. As soon as I heard that this supposedly happened 5 years ago, all credibility was lost. To hear the guy say that he gave it to [unknown] scientists for authentication 5 years ago and still won't let us see it because they are still working on it is just silly.

Gimme a break.

~ Lazarus ~